Seriously KC Joyner?

Yeah, he is as dumb as he looks.

I hate to become ‘that guy’ who always bashes the Giants but THIS is too good to pass up.  KC Joyner has come out and proclaimed the Giants (yes, those Giants) to be the favorites to win the NFC East. It honestly felt like I was reading a fairytale. Does ESPN just hand out jobs to people that will make up any stats that allows them to justify controversial view points for page hits? Based off of the crap I just read, the answer is yes. I guess we’ll just get right to it.

One of the reasons Philadelphia won the NFC East in 2010 is that Vick had a near-MVP campaign, but the fact is he benefitted from more luck than maybe any other quarterback in the league.

He had only 19.4 percent of his potential interceptions turn into actual interceptions. That total was tied for the lowest interception luck factor rate in the league and indicates he was a huge beneficiary of fortunate bounces.

Luck factor? Yeah, excuse me for being skeptical on this. I remember some throws that could’ve been interceptions but I don’t remember an inordinate amount of them. I’m not going to fault Michael Vick for interceptions he didn’t throw, every QB in the NFL benefits from dropped interceptions. And I’m suspicious of this because he doesn’t list any instances, he just sort of throws it out there.

And I know KC Joyner believes in his make believe stats but there really is something to be said for real world results. Did KC Joyner forget that the only QB in the NFL to throw more interceptions than Eli since he took over as the starter is Brett Favre? And does he know that no QB in the NFL has turned the ball over more since Eli came into the NFL than Eli Manning? And does he realize that Michael Vick has never thrown more than 13 interceptions in a season? Perhaps Vick just throws a less ‘interceptable’ ball sort of like Donovan McNabb did.

Hakeem Nicks and Mario Manningham are much better matchup-busters than DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin

A matchup-buster wide receiver is one who is capable of posting dominant numbers against quality cornerback coverage.

A study in the 2011 TFS Fantasy Football Draft Guide examined how wideouts around the league fared in this coverage scenario. The guide broke cornerbacks down into different rating levels, with a red rating being the best (allowing less than 7.0 YPA), and a yellow rating indicating the player was average (allowing 7.0-8.9 YPA).

Jackson and Maclin averaged 5.6 YPA on 66 passes against red- and yellow-rated cornerbacks last year. To put that into perspective, the league average in this category was 7.3 YPA, so these two weren’t even average when facing quality competition.

Now contrast that with Nicks and Manningham. Those two faced red- and yellow-rated cornerbacks on 96 passes last year and posted 9.6 YPA on those aerials.

The vast difference between these totals offers strong evidence that New York’s starting wideouts are much better matchup-busters than Philadelphia’s.

………. LOL WUT? Corners with yellow and red ratings? Ahahaha. Lets look past the colors and look at the numbers from some of the matchups.

Hakeem Nicks v.s.

Targets

Receptions

Yards

YPC

TDs

Cortland Finnegan

3

2

28

14

0

Mike Jenkins

7

4

68

17

0

Terrence Newman

8

5

65

13

0

Asante Samuel

2

0

0

0

0

Antoine Winfield

1

1

7

7

0

Charles Woodson

3

2

48

24

1

Sam Shields

0

0

0

0

0

Tramon Williams

3

0

0

0

0

Chris Tillman

6

5

51

10.2

0

Against some notable corners Nicks had a 57% catch rate, 8.09 yards per target and 1 TD.

Mario Manningham v.s.

Targets

Receptions

Yards

YPC

TDs

Cortland Finnegan

4

3

41

13.6

0

Mike Jenkins

2

1

13

13

0

Terrence Newman

3

2

23

11.5

0

Asante Samuel

2

1

3

3

0

Rashean Mathis

1

1

17

17

0

Antoine Winfield

2

0

0

0

0

Charles Woodson

0

0

0

0

0

Sam

Shields

2

1

21

21

0

Tramon Williams

2

2

90

45

1

Tim Jennings

1

0

0

0

0

Against some notable corners Manningham had a 57% catch rate, 10.9 yards per target and 1 TD.

DeSean Jackson v.s.

Targets

Receptions

Yards

YPC

TDs

Mike Jenkins

2

1

91

91

1

Terrence Newman

2

1

60

60

0

Corey Webster

10

5

51

10.2

0

Rashean Mathis

1

1

25

25

0

Antoine Winfield

1

0

0

0

0

Charles Woodson

1

0

0

0

0

Sam

Shields

1

1

12

12

0

Tramon Williams

5

1

3

3

0

Tim Jennings

1

0

0

0

0

Chris Tillman

1

0

0

0

0

Against some notable corners Jackson had a 40% catch rate, 9.68  yards per target and 1 TD.

Jeremy Maclin v.s.

Targets

Receptions

Yards

YPC

TDs

Mike Jenkins

1

0

0

0

0

Terrence Newman

2

1

11

11

0

Corey Webster

1

1

8

8

1

Terrell Thomas

18

11

129

11.7

1

Rashean Mathis

2

2

30

15

1

Antoine Winfield

5

4

37

9.25

0

Sam

Shields

2

1

17

17

1

Tramon Williams

4

2

50

25

0

Tim Jennings

2

2

34

13

0

Against some notable corners Maclin had a 64.8% catch rate, 8.5 yards per target (316 yards, the most of all these players btw) and 4 touchdowns.

And another chart just so you can compare how they performed against the most notable corners they faced last season:

Statistical Category

Jeremy Maclin

DeSean Jackson

Hakeem Nicks

Mario Manningham

Catches

24

10

19

11

Yards

316

242

267

208

TDs

4

1

1

1

Catch %

64.8%

40%

57%

57%

Yards Per Target

8.5

9.68

8.09

10.9

Let’s assume Manning will throw around 500 passes this year. Last year, Nicks saw 127 targets in only 13 games, so his target level could move up to the 150-range this year. Manningham saw 90 targets in 16 games, but only eight of those games were starts. If we move his target level up to 125, those two will account for 275 of Manning’s targets. Give the running backs 100 targets and the total moves to 375. That leaves only 125 targets for the tight end and No. 3 wide receiver. Even if the replacements for Boss and Smith are a yard or so worse in YPA, it means a loss of only 150 yards or so, which is a negligible amount.

This is a joke. He’s guessing the amount of targets each player will get and he’s stating it as if they’re facts. And I like how he only focuses on yardage when it comes to the loss of Steve Smith and Kevin Boss. I already told you guys what happens to Eli when he loses Steve Smith.

Statistical Category Eli w/ Smith Eli w/o Smith
Yards Per Game 251 248
Completion Percentage 64.9% 60.1%
TD Passes Per Pass .058 .054
Interceptions Per Pass .042 .0502

KC Joyner just completely ignores the fact that Eli is a worse player when he doesn’t have Steve Smith. Yardage is negligible, he is right about that but I’ll tell you what isn’t negligible, losing 4% on your completion percentage, throwing less touchdowns and throwing more interceptions. The loss of Steve Smith is hardly negligible.

And KC Joyner might need to hit up Iggles Nest every once in a while, he might learn something. Joyner only looks at Kevin Boss the receiver, as we mentioned in our State Of The Giants piece, the Giants are going to miss Kevin Boss the blocker.

Jason Pierre-Paul and Marvin Austin could make the strong Giants pass rush even stronger Pierre-Paul was very highly rated coming out of college and is starting to showcase those skills at the NFL level to the extent that ESPN.com NFC East blogger Dan Graziano said he “looks like a monster.” Austin displayed a wide variety of pass-rush skills at North Carolina and could add a lot of up-the-gut pass-rush pressure.

Yay for baseless speculation! These guys were highly rated out of college which obviously means they’re going to be great. This also explains why Charles Rogers, JaMarcus Russell, Vernon Gholston and Jerome McDougle are tearing up the NFL. Oh wait…

For someone who’s only job is to watch football, Joyner should know that Jason Pierre-Paul didn’t do that well in his rookie year and that he shouldn’t put much faith in someone tearing up training camp. Joyner should also know that rookie defensive tackles do not typically play very well in their rookie years.

Steve Weatherford could vastly improve the Giants punting Matt Dodge’s punting last year was sometimes legendarily bad, something Eagles fans can appreciate most. It’s not a given that Weatherford will win the job, but even if his presence only serves to make Dodge get his punting act together, it would shore up a potentially huge weakness for the Giants.

So the Giants are going to win the NFC East because of their upgrade at punter? Seriously? The Eagles added 6 probowl players along with a bunch of veterans and the Giants are going to win because of their punter?… Okay buddy.

Pat Flaherty will help New York weather the offensive line changes Flaherty might be the best offensive line coach in the NFL, and his expertise is a main reason why the Giants ranked second in sacks allowed percentage last year despite playing three different centers, two different left guards and two different left tackles. If Flaherty’s history is any indicator, it won’t take long for this revamped group to gel.

I feel like I’ve heard this before… Sometime around 2009, right? You know, when Juan Castillo was the best OL coach in the NFL and he was going to help the Eagles weather the additions of Jason Peters, Stacy Andrews and the move of Shawn Andrews to RT. Remember that?

Kenny Phillips is healthy

Although losing Amukamara is certainly a hindrance, the Giants have good depth at the position with Corey Webster, Aaron Ross and Terrell Thomas. There is far less depth at safety, so getting the talented Phillips back to full strength should make up for the loss of Amukamara, and then some.

Just more speculation from KC Joyner. KC says that Kenny is going to be healthy and that because he will be healthy he will be an impact player so it must be true, right?

Each of these items is significant on its own, but when they are added together, they show why New York general manager Jerry Reese was willing to guarantee that his team would be playoff-bound in 2011.

I just love how he completely ignores everything the Eagles have done. Is he just going to ignore the fact that the Eagles added Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Jason Babin, Cullen Jenkins, Vince Young, Ronnie Brown, Ryan Harris, Donald Lee, Johnnie Lee-Higgins, Jarrad Page, Anthony Hargrove, Derek Landri, Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins and Jaiquawn Jarrett? I guess so.

It appears that the Giants are going to win the division because Vick is lucky, the Giants have JPP and Marvin Austin, Kenny Phillips is healthy and they added an awesome punter! Watch out guys, the Giants are really looking good! /sarcasm

KC Joyner is a joke.

3 Responses to Seriously KC Joyner?
  1. JimmyK
    August 17, 2011 | 2:22 pm
    • Kyle
      August 17, 2011 | 3:04 pm

      Oh god… Part 2 forthcoming? I think so. 

  2. Wtejada11
    August 17, 2011 | 2:59 pm

    This is the perfect response to this sorry excuse of a sports analysis, I’ve always thought Giants fans were so idiotic, however I was biased; since I despise the giants and everything that has to do with that franchise, but alas it is true not only are they idiotic but they live in some fantasy land… KC Joyner is the mayor

    We’ll see how that punter wins the Eagles Giants matchup.. That’s assuming Lady ‘Luck Factor’ isn’t on Vick’s side…